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Did you know that Weight Watchers has been around since the 1960's? This weight loss plan really took off in the 1970's, and there it was a lot more restrictive than the points system Weight Watchers uses now.

But, seeing some of the old diet tips, the plan itself, and some of the recipes probably brings back old memories (both good and bad), and just because the diet is different now, it doesn't mean that there aren't some good parts of the older plan, and some great recipes. Let's take a look at how the basic program worked in the 1970's, and some of the recipes that dieters were allowed to make and eat.

The Basics

In order to be successful with this, or any diet, it was important to follow the program as it was written out by Weight Watchers. For instance, you could only eat the foods that were available on the menu plan, in the amounts and weights that were specified. You could combine a lot of the foods, as long as all ingredients were counted in each dish. It was important to keep a daily food record. Here are a few of the rules for Weight Watchers diets back in the 70's.

No Dietetic Products

Dietetic products were not allowed on the Weight Watchers diet, with the exceptions of unsweetened, carbonated beverages, artificial sweeteners, and imitation or diet margarines.

Condiments and Seasonings

Many condiments and seasonings could be used as desired. This included many herbs and spices, as well as some beverages and prepared sauces.

Vegetables

There were some vegetables you could have in unlimited amounts, including capers, celery, gherkins, lettuce, parsley, and radishes. Other vegetables, such as asparagus, bean sprouts, beet greens, tomatoes, kale, and cucumbers were allowed in limited amounts.

Fruits

Users of the early Weight Watchers diet were allowed to have certain amounts of fruit, and were encouraged to have one fruit or juice for breakfast each day. Fruits were divided into three groups, one fruit daily (cantaloupe, tangerine, grapefruit, etc.), multiple fruits daily (apricots, Mandarin oranges, pineapple, etc.), and once weekly (grapes, bananas, cherries, etc.). They could be fresh, frozen, and canned (unsweetened).

Fish, Meat, Poultry, and Alternatives

These foods were divided into two categories, B, and C. B group foods could be eaten exactly three times each week, for either lunch or dinner. Group C foods were what were considered the must-have foods each week.

Bread

Many diets don't include bread, but the old Weight Watchers diet did. Users could have bread with meals only, as listed on the Menu Plan. Bread products could be fresh, pre-sliced, packaged, and enriched, 100 percent whole wheat, or enriched rolls. Each serving was to weigh one ounce.

Eggs and Cheese

You could have four eggs per week on this diet plan, for morning and noon meals. They could be hard boiled, poached, or scrambled (with no fat). Some cheese and cheese products were allowed, such as cottage cheese made with skimmed milk, and no more than four ounces of hard cheese each week.

Milk

You could have skimmed milk, evaporated skimmed milk, or buttermilk. If products were labeled as 'skimmed milk products,' they were not allowed on the Weight Watchers diet.

1970's Weight Watchers Recipes

Now it's time to check out some of the interesting recipe ideas Weight Watchers had for dieters in the 1970's. Some of them don't sound half bad, while others look like they were a great incentive to limit one's diet.

Molded Asparagus Salad

This was an easy recipe for a molded salad, something that was quite popular back in the 70's. For this salad, you were required to sprinkle gelatin over a half a cup of tomato juice in a saucepan, stirring slowly until the gelatin powder dissolved. Then, it instructed users to add more tomato juice, vinegar, salt, hot sauce, and some sweetener, pour into a mold, and chill until the mixture had a syrupy texture. Finally, the asparagus was added.

Frankfurter Special

This was a mix of hotdogs or frankfurters, pineapple, onions, and carrots. It might sound weird to some, but many found it quite tasty. For those who wanted to serve this meal with a bit of flair, the frankfurters could be served on the pineapple core.

Broiled Apple Burgers

A lot of Weight Watchers burgers weren't made from beef, but used mackerel, frankfurters, or even gelatin instead. These burgers were actually made from beef, and they sound quite tasty. The meat was broiled on a rack, and then served with apples. For a bit of a twist, you could cook the apple on the grill as well.

Peach Melba

This dish was and still is quite popular, both with dieters and non-dieters. It was made with delicious peaches, and gelatin balls that looked like cherries, but were actually made with gelatin and diet soda.

Stuffed Lettuce Wedges

Here is another quick and easy Weight Watchers recipe from the 1970's that is totally diet friendly for just about any diet. It was simply lettuce leaves stuffed with cottage cheese and seasoned with paprika, with some radishes on the side.

Inspiration Soup

Here is a strange name for a soup that doesn't sound very inspiring. This watery soup is made with tomatoes, beansprouts, green beans, and asparagus. It is loaded with healthy ingredients though, and is an excellent food for dieters.

Perfect Pizza Lunch

If you were on the 1970's Weight Watchers diet and you wanted pizza, you could have a version that was simple to make and didn't cost much. Of course, it wasn't exactly the best pizza substitute, but if you were craving tomato sauce and cheese, it was great. All you had to do was put sauce and mozzarella cheese on a slice of bread and place it under the broiler until the cheese melted.

Chilled Celery Log

This is a treat that you probably still see at family gatherings, baby and wedding showers, etc. It is quick and easy to make, and if you like cauliflower, quite tasty. To make this dish, simply mash cauliflower and stir in a bit of green pepper. Spread mixture into celery sticks and let chill for 45 minutes before serving.

The Watchers For Macaroni And Cheese

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? is a Latin phrase found in the work of the Roman poet Juvenal from his Satires (Satire VI, lines 347–348). It is literally translated as 'Who will guard the guards themselves?', though it is also known by variant translations, such as 'Who watches the watchers?' and 'Who will watch the watchmen?'.

The original context deals with the problem of ensuring marital fidelity, though the phrase is now commonly used more generally to refer to the problem of controlling the actions of persons in positions of power, an issue discussed by Plato in the Republic. It is not clear whether the phrase was written by Juvenal, or whether the passage in which it appears was interpolated into his works.

Original context[edit]

The phrase, as it is normally quoted in Latin, comes from the Satires of Juvenal, the 1st–2nd century Romansatirist. Although in its modern usage the phrase has universal, timeless applications to concepts such as tyrannicalgovernments, uncontrollably oppressive dictatorships, and police or judicial corruption and overreach, in context within Juvenal's poem it refers to the impossibility of enforcing moral behaviour on women when the enforcers (custodes) are corruptible (Satire 6, 346–348):

Modern editors regard these three lines as an interpolation inserted into the text. In 1899 an undergraduate student at Oxford, E. O. Winstedt, discovered a manuscript (now known as O, for Oxoniensis) containing 34 lines which some believe to have been omitted from other texts of Juvenal's poem.^[1] The debate on this manuscript is ongoing, but even if the verses are not by Juvenal, it is likely that it preserves the original context of the phrase.^[2] If so, the original context is as follows (O 29–33):

Reference to political power[edit]

This phrase is used generally to consider the embodiment of the philosophical question as to how power can be held to account. It is sometimes incorrectly attributed as a direct quotation from Plato's Republic in both popular media and academic contexts.^[3] There is no exact parallel in the Republic, but it is used by modern authors to express Socrates' concerns about the guardians, the solution to which is to properly train their souls.

Several 19th-century examples of the association with Plato can be found, often dropping 'ipsos'.^[4][5]John Stuart Mill quotes it thus in Considerations on Representative Government (1861), though without reference to Plato. Plato's Republic though was hardly ever referenced by classical Latin authors like Juvenal, and it has been noted that it simply disappeared from literary awareness for a thousand years except for traces in the writings of Cicero and St. Augustine.^[6] In the Republic, a putatively perfect society is described by Socrates, the main character in this Socratic dialogue.

Socrates proposed a guardian class to protect that society, and the custodes (watchmen) from the Satires are often interpreted as being parallel to the Platonic guardians (phylakes in Greek). Socrates' answer to the problem is, in essence, that the guardians will be manipulated to guard themselves against themselves via a deception often called the 'noble lie' in English.^[7]As Leonid Hurwicz pointed out in his 2007 lecture on accepting the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences, one of Socrates' interlocutors in the Republic, Glaucon, even goes so far as to say 'it would be absurd that a guardian should need a guard.'^[8]

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The issue of the accountability of political power, traced back to different passages of the Old and New Testaments, received great attention in medieval and early modern Christian thought, especially in connection with the exercise of authority in the Church and in church-state relations.^[9] In the Protestant tradition it also animated the debate about who was to be the final arbiter in the interpretation of the Scriptures.^[10][11]

In his 2013 report to the UN Human Rights Council the Independent Expert on the Promotion of a Democratic and Equitable International Order elucidated Juvenal's continued relevance: 'Crucial remains the conviction that the government should serve the people and that its powers must be circumscribed by a Constitution and the rule of law. Juvenal's question quis custodiet ipsos custodes (who guards the guardians?) remains a central concern of democracy, since the people must always watch over the constitutional behaviour of the leaders and impeach them if they act in contravention of their duties. Constitutional courts must fulfil this need and civil society should show solidarity with human rights defenders and whistleblowers who, far from being unpatriotic, perform a democratic service to their countries and the world.'^[12]

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In popular culture[edit]

The question 'Who watches the watchmen?' often partially appears as graffiti scrawled in the background of Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons' graphic novelWatchmen, but the phrase is never seen in its entirety.^[13] Moore stated in an interview that the title of the series related directly to this question, although at the time of the interview Moore did not know where the sentence originated.^[14]

Science fiction author Robert A. Heinlein chose the original Latin phrase as the motto of the Solar Patrol, as depicted in his 1948 novel Space Cadet.

The internet comedy group LoadingReadyRun made a video parodying the question of 'Who watches the Watchmen?', proposing that the Watchmen watch the city, the 'Neighbourhood Watchmen Watching Organisation' watch the Watchmen, the 'Watching The Neighbourhood Watchmen Watching Organisation Organisation' watch the Neighbourhood Watchmen Watching Organisation, and Geoff watches the 'Watching The Neighbourhood Watchmen Watching Organisation Organisation'. An unnamed person is seen to be watching Geoff.^[15]

The independent film The Guards Themselves^[16] by Kyle C. Sullivan and Ian Conn takes its title from this phrase. It tells the tale of a group of so-called anarchists who appear to be villains endeavoring to overthrow the government and who are thwarted repeatedly by supposedly heroic vigilantes. However, the government in their city is corrupted by an actually villainous group of five oligarchs, and the vigilantes are primarily out for publicity; it is the anarchists who are the true guards of their city.

An episode of Inspector Morse ('Absolute Conviction') references this quote. Whilst speaking with the prison governess Hilary Stephens in an Oxford college, Morse encounters his former college chaplain. Upon finding out that the head of a prison is off prison premises he asks 'quis custodiet ipsos custodes?' Morse finds it amusing since the chaplain says this every time the two meet, only this time it is 'remotely apposite'.

An episode of the animated seriesThe Simpsons refers to this philosophical question. In episode 1F09, 'Homer the Vigilante', when Homer is talking about having abused his vigilante powers, his elder daughter Lisa asks, 'If you're the police, who will police the police?' Homer responds, 'I don't know. Coast Guard?'^[17]

It appears frequently in Terry Pratchett's Discworld novels, usually heard from Sir Samuel Vimes, commander of the City Watch. He answers it in Thud!, though very briefly, with the line 'I do'. When asked who watches over him, he follows it up with 'I do, too'. It also appears in Feet of Clay and I Shall Wear Midnight. It first appears in Guards! Guards! from a citizen, also addressed to Vimes, as: 'Quis custodiet custard?'

'Who Watches the Watchers' is an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation involving a group of anthropologists who are observing a primitive culture from a concealed location, but are revealed following an accident.

In Dan Brown's novel Digital Fortress, the phrase appears engraved in a ring owned by Ensei Tankado, a former NSA employee who disapproved of the NSA's intrusion into the people's private lives. The phrase is aimed at the NSA who check for any information on emails sent over the web that endanger national security. The phrase asks who will keep the NSA in check, as they do others.

In Did I Ever Tell You How Lucky You Are? by Dr. Seuss, the entire town of Hawtch-Hawtch is employed as watchers watching over other watchers leading to the first watcher who is watching the 'lazy town bee' so it will work harder. Since the bee wasn't working harder, it was assumed the bee-watcher wasn't watching hard enough and needed to be watched.

In the video game Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary, the seventh Terminal's description is 'Who monitors the Monitor?', and details 343 Guilty Spark's frustration with loneliness. The replacement of 'watchmen' with 'Monitor' is a reference to Guilty Spark's position of Monitor of Installation 04.^[18]

During an episode of Justice League Unlimited, Batman says the phrase to Green Arrow after Arrow talked Superman and the other founding members out of disbanding the League. Green Arrow translates the Latin to 'Who guards the guardians'. Superman's reason for disbanding the League was that the League were guilty of arrogance, and have alienated the people they were trying to protect. Green Arrow's reason not to disband is that no matter what, they are still heroes and needed greatly.

In Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, the phrase is handwritten on a floor support near the staircase as Batman carries a weakened Superman over his shoulder at the climax of their duel.

In the Person of Interest television series, if The Machine ever suffered a hard reset it would then ring a public phone and ask the phrase, and whoever answered the call would have administrative access for 24 hours.

In the comic book series Countdown to Final Crisis, Donna Troy asks the question 'Who monitors the monitors?' in regards to the 52 monitors from parallel universes and who will keep them in line, following the events of the story.

In Letter VIII of 'Meditations on the Tarot: A Journey into Christian Hermeticism',^[19] on Justice (Tarot card), the anonymous author (now known to have been Valentin Tomberg) includes the phrase in one of the opening epigraphs as follows: 'Quis custodiat custodes? (Who will guard the guards?. . . The fundamental problem of jurisprudence)'.

In the video game The Evil Within 2, the character Julian Sykes quotes the Latin phrase to protagonist Sebastian Castellanos in reference to Sykes himself having found an escape route, with Sykes abandoning his mission by the company Mobius that hired him. Sebastian expresses confusion at the phrase when given no explanation.

In the first episode of Watchmen, the character Police Chief Judd Crawford quotes the Latin phrase to his assembled Tulsa, Oklahoma, police force to invoke Article 4, which allows the 24-hour release of deadly weapons. The police force calls back, in unison, 'Nos costodimus', which means 'we uphold'.

See also[edit]

But, seeing some of the old diet tips, the plan itself, and some of the recipes probably brings back old memories (both good and bad), and just because the diet is different now, it doesn't mean that there aren't some good parts of the older plan, and some great recipes. Let's take a look at how the basic program worked in the 1970's, and some of the recipes that dieters were allowed to make and eat.

The Basics

In order to be successful with this, or any diet, it was important to follow the program as it was written out by Weight Watchers. For instance, you could only eat the foods that were available on the menu plan, in the amounts and weights that were specified. You could combine a lot of the foods, as long as all ingredients were counted in each dish. It was important to keep a daily food record. Here are a few of the rules for Weight Watchers diets back in the 70's.

No Dietetic Products

Dietetic products were not allowed on the Weight Watchers diet, with the exceptions of unsweetened, carbonated beverages, artificial sweeteners, and imitation or diet margarines.

Condiments and Seasonings

Many condiments and seasonings could be used as desired. This included many herbs and spices, as well as some beverages and prepared sauces.

Vegetables

There were some vegetables you could have in unlimited amounts, including capers, celery, gherkins, lettuce, parsley, and radishes. Other vegetables, such as asparagus, bean sprouts, beet greens, tomatoes, kale, and cucumbers were allowed in limited amounts.

Fruits

Users of the early Weight Watchers diet were allowed to have certain amounts of fruit, and were encouraged to have one fruit or juice for breakfast each day. Fruits were divided into three groups, one fruit daily (cantaloupe, tangerine, grapefruit, etc.), multiple fruits daily (apricots, Mandarin oranges, pineapple, etc.), and once weekly (grapes, bananas, cherries, etc.). They could be fresh, frozen, and canned (unsweetened).

Fish, Meat, Poultry, and Alternatives

These foods were divided into two categories, B, and C. B group foods could be eaten exactly three times each week, for either lunch or dinner. Group C foods were what were considered the must-have foods each week.

Bread

Many diets don't include bread, but the old Weight Watchers diet did. Users could have bread with meals only, as listed on the Menu Plan. Bread products could be fresh, pre-sliced, packaged, and enriched, 100 percent whole wheat, or enriched rolls. Each serving was to weigh one ounce.

Eggs and Cheese

You could have four eggs per week on this diet plan, for morning and noon meals. They could be hard boiled, poached, or scrambled (with no fat). Some cheese and cheese products were allowed, such as cottage cheese made with skimmed milk, and no more than four ounces of hard cheese each week.

Milk

You could have skimmed milk, evaporated skimmed milk, or buttermilk. If products were labeled as 'skimmed milk products,' they were not allowed on the Weight Watchers diet.

1970's Weight Watchers Recipes

Now it's time to check out some of the interesting recipe ideas Weight Watchers had for dieters in the 1970's. Some of them don't sound half bad, while others look like they were a great incentive to limit one's diet.

Molded Asparagus Salad

This was an easy recipe for a molded salad, something that was quite popular back in the 70's. For this salad, you were required to sprinkle gelatin over a half a cup of tomato juice in a saucepan, stirring slowly until the gelatin powder dissolved. Then, it instructed users to add more tomato juice, vinegar, salt, hot sauce, and some sweetener, pour into a mold, and chill until the mixture had a syrupy texture. Finally, the asparagus was added.

Frankfurter Special

This was a mix of hotdogs or frankfurters, pineapple, onions, and carrots. It might sound weird to some, but many found it quite tasty. For those who wanted to serve this meal with a bit of flair, the frankfurters could be served on the pineapple core.

Broiled Apple Burgers

A lot of Weight Watchers burgers weren't made from beef, but used mackerel, frankfurters, or even gelatin instead. These burgers were actually made from beef, and they sound quite tasty. The meat was broiled on a rack, and then served with apples. For a bit of a twist, you could cook the apple on the grill as well.

Peach Melba

This dish was and still is quite popular, both with dieters and non-dieters. It was made with delicious peaches, and gelatin balls that looked like cherries, but were actually made with gelatin and diet soda.

Stuffed Lettuce Wedges

Here is another quick and easy Weight Watchers recipe from the 1970's that is totally diet friendly for just about any diet. It was simply lettuce leaves stuffed with cottage cheese and seasoned with paprika, with some radishes on the side.

Inspiration Soup

Here is a strange name for a soup that doesn't sound very inspiring. This watery soup is made with tomatoes, beansprouts, green beans, and asparagus. It is loaded with healthy ingredients though, and is an excellent food for dieters.

Perfect Pizza Lunch

If you were on the 1970's Weight Watchers diet and you wanted pizza, you could have a version that was simple to make and didn't cost much. Of course, it wasn't exactly the best pizza substitute, but if you were craving tomato sauce and cheese, it was great. All you had to do was put sauce and mozzarella cheese on a slice of bread and place it under the broiler until the cheese melted.

Chilled Celery Log

This is a treat that you probably still see at family gatherings, baby and wedding showers, etc. It is quick and easy to make, and if you like cauliflower, quite tasty. To make this dish, simply mash cauliflower and stir in a bit of green pepper. Spread mixture into celery sticks and let chill for 45 minutes before serving.

The Watchers For Macaroni And Cheese

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? is a Latin phrase found in the work of the Roman poet Juvenal from his Satires (Satire VI, lines 347–348). It is literally translated as 'Who will guard the guards themselves?', though it is also known by variant translations, such as 'Who watches the watchers?' and 'Who will watch the watchmen?'.

The original context deals with the problem of ensuring marital fidelity, though the phrase is now commonly used more generally to refer to the problem of controlling the actions of persons in positions of power, an issue discussed by Plato in the Republic. It is not clear whether the phrase was written by Juvenal, or whether the passage in which it appears was interpolated into his works.

Original context[edit]

The phrase, as it is normally quoted in Latin, comes from the Satires of Juvenal, the 1st–2nd century Romansatirist. Although in its modern usage the phrase has universal, timeless applications to concepts such as tyrannicalgovernments, uncontrollably oppressive dictatorships, and police or judicial corruption and overreach, in context within Juvenal's poem it refers to the impossibility of enforcing moral behaviour on women when the enforcers (custodes) are corruptible (Satire 6, 346–348):

Modern editors regard these three lines as an interpolation inserted into the text. In 1899 an undergraduate student at Oxford, E. O. Winstedt, discovered a manuscript (now known as O, for Oxoniensis) containing 34 lines which some believe to have been omitted from other texts of Juvenal's poem.^[1] The debate on this manuscript is ongoing, but even if the verses are not by Juvenal, it is likely that it preserves the original context of the phrase.^[2] If so, the original context is as follows (O 29–33):

Reference to political power[edit]

This phrase is used generally to consider the embodiment of the philosophical question as to how power can be held to account. It is sometimes incorrectly attributed as a direct quotation from Plato's Republic in both popular media and academic contexts.^[3] There is no exact parallel in the Republic, but it is used by modern authors to express Socrates' concerns about the guardians, the solution to which is to properly train their souls.

Several 19th-century examples of the association with Plato can be found, often dropping 'ipsos'.^[4][5]John Stuart Mill quotes it thus in Considerations on Representative Government (1861), though without reference to Plato. Plato's Republic though was hardly ever referenced by classical Latin authors like Juvenal, and it has been noted that it simply disappeared from literary awareness for a thousand years except for traces in the writings of Cicero and St. Augustine.^[6] In the Republic, a putatively perfect society is described by Socrates, the main character in this Socratic dialogue.

Socrates proposed a guardian class to protect that society, and the custodes (watchmen) from the Satires are often interpreted as being parallel to the Platonic guardians (phylakes in Greek). Socrates' answer to the problem is, in essence, that the guardians will be manipulated to guard themselves against themselves via a deception often called the 'noble lie' in English.^[7]As Leonid Hurwicz pointed out in his 2007 lecture on accepting the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences, one of Socrates' interlocutors in the Republic, Glaucon, even goes so far as to say 'it would be absurd that a guardian should need a guard.'^[8]

The Watcher House Update

The issue of the accountability of political power, traced back to different passages of the Old and New Testaments, received great attention in medieval and early modern Christian thought, especially in connection with the exercise of authority in the Church and in church-state relations.^[9] In the Protestant tradition it also animated the debate about who was to be the final arbiter in the interpretation of the Scriptures.^[10][11]

In his 2013 report to the UN Human Rights Council the Independent Expert on the Promotion of a Democratic and Equitable International Order elucidated Juvenal's continued relevance: 'Crucial remains the conviction that the government should serve the people and that its powers must be circumscribed by a Constitution and the rule of law. Juvenal's question quis custodiet ipsos custodes (who guards the guardians?) remains a central concern of democracy, since the people must always watch over the constitutional behaviour of the leaders and impeach them if they act in contravention of their duties. Constitutional courts must fulfil this need and civil society should show solidarity with human rights defenders and whistleblowers who, far from being unpatriotic, perform a democratic service to their countries and the world.'^[12]

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In popular culture[edit]

The question 'Who watches the watchmen?' often partially appears as graffiti scrawled in the background of Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons' graphic novelWatchmen, but the phrase is never seen in its entirety.^[13] Moore stated in an interview that the title of the series related directly to this question, although at the time of the interview Moore did not know where the sentence originated.^[14]

Science fiction author Robert A. Heinlein chose the original Latin phrase as the motto of the Solar Patrol, as depicted in his 1948 novel Space Cadet.

The internet comedy group LoadingReadyRun made a video parodying the question of 'Who watches the Watchmen?', proposing that the Watchmen watch the city, the 'Neighbourhood Watchmen Watching Organisation' watch the Watchmen, the 'Watching The Neighbourhood Watchmen Watching Organisation Organisation' watch the Neighbourhood Watchmen Watching Organisation, and Geoff watches the 'Watching The Neighbourhood Watchmen Watching Organisation Organisation'. An unnamed person is seen to be watching Geoff.^[15]

The independent film The Guards Themselves^[16] by Kyle C. Sullivan and Ian Conn takes its title from this phrase. It tells the tale of a group of so-called anarchists who appear to be villains endeavoring to overthrow the government and who are thwarted repeatedly by supposedly heroic vigilantes. However, the government in their city is corrupted by an actually villainous group of five oligarchs, and the vigilantes are primarily out for publicity; it is the anarchists who are the true guards of their city.

An episode of Inspector Morse ('Absolute Conviction') references this quote. Whilst speaking with the prison governess Hilary Stephens in an Oxford college, Morse encounters his former college chaplain. Upon finding out that the head of a prison is off prison premises he asks 'quis custodiet ipsos custodes?' Morse finds it amusing since the chaplain says this every time the two meet, only this time it is 'remotely apposite'.

An episode of the animated seriesThe Simpsons refers to this philosophical question. In episode 1F09, 'Homer the Vigilante', when Homer is talking about having abused his vigilante powers, his elder daughter Lisa asks, 'If you're the police, who will police the police?' Homer responds, 'I don't know. Coast Guard?'^[17]

It appears frequently in Terry Pratchett's Discworld novels, usually heard from Sir Samuel Vimes, commander of the City Watch. He answers it in Thud!, though very briefly, with the line 'I do'. When asked who watches over him, he follows it up with 'I do, too'. It also appears in Feet of Clay and I Shall Wear Midnight. It first appears in Guards! Guards! from a citizen, also addressed to Vimes, as: 'Quis custodiet custard?'

'Who Watches the Watchers' is an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation involving a group of anthropologists who are observing a primitive culture from a concealed location, but are revealed following an accident.

In Dan Brown's novel Digital Fortress, the phrase appears engraved in a ring owned by Ensei Tankado, a former NSA employee who disapproved of the NSA's intrusion into the people's private lives. The phrase is aimed at the NSA who check for any information on emails sent over the web that endanger national security. The phrase asks who will keep the NSA in check, as they do others.

In Did I Ever Tell You How Lucky You Are? by Dr. Seuss, the entire town of Hawtch-Hawtch is employed as watchers watching over other watchers leading to the first watcher who is watching the 'lazy town bee' so it will work harder. Since the bee wasn't working harder, it was assumed the bee-watcher wasn't watching hard enough and needed to be watched.

In the video game Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary, the seventh Terminal's description is 'Who monitors the Monitor?', and details 343 Guilty Spark's frustration with loneliness. The replacement of 'watchmen' with 'Monitor' is a reference to Guilty Spark's position of Monitor of Installation 04.^[18]

During an episode of Justice League Unlimited, Batman says the phrase to Green Arrow after Arrow talked Superman and the other founding members out of disbanding the League. Green Arrow translates the Latin to 'Who guards the guardians'. Superman's reason for disbanding the League was that the League were guilty of arrogance, and have alienated the people they were trying to protect. Green Arrow's reason not to disband is that no matter what, they are still heroes and needed greatly.

In Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, the phrase is handwritten on a floor support near the staircase as Batman carries a weakened Superman over his shoulder at the climax of their duel.

In the Person of Interest television series, if The Machine ever suffered a hard reset it would then ring a public phone and ask the phrase, and whoever answered the call would have administrative access for 24 hours.

In the comic book series Countdown to Final Crisis, Donna Troy asks the question 'Who monitors the monitors?' in regards to the 52 monitors from parallel universes and who will keep them in line, following the events of the story.

In Letter VIII of 'Meditations on the Tarot: A Journey into Christian Hermeticism',^[19] on Justice (Tarot card), the anonymous author (now known to have been Valentin Tomberg) includes the phrase in one of the opening epigraphs as follows: 'Quis custodiat custodes? (Who will guard the guards?. . . The fundamental problem of jurisprudence)'.

In the video game The Evil Within 2, the character Julian Sykes quotes the Latin phrase to protagonist Sebastian Castellanos in reference to Sykes himself having found an escape route, with Sykes abandoning his mission by the company Mobius that hired him. Sebastian expresses confusion at the phrase when given no explanation.

In the first episode of Watchmen, the character Police Chief Judd Crawford quotes the Latin phrase to his assembled Tulsa, Oklahoma, police force to invoke Article 4, which allows the 24-hour release of deadly weapons. The police force calls back, in unison, 'Nos costodimus', which means 'we uphold'.

See also[edit]

References[edit]

1. ^E. O. Winstedt 1899, 'A Bodleian MS of Juvenal', Classical Review 13: 201–205.
2. ^Recently J. D. Sosin 2000, 'Ausonius' Juvenal and the Winstedt fragment', Classical Philology 95.2: 199–206 has argued for an early date for the poem.
3. ^E.g. Who Are The Watchmen?; T. Besley and J.A. Robinson, 'Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Civilian Control over the Military', Journal of the European Economic Association v. 8, pp. 655–663, 2010; and P. Corning, The Fair Society: The Science of Human Nature and the Pursuit of Social Justice, University of Chicago Press, p. 146, 2011.
4. ^Oxenham, H.N. (1878). 'Moral and Religious Estimate of Vivisection'. Gentleman's Magazine, and Historical Chronicle. 243 (Jul. to Dec): 732.
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External links[edit]

• Satire VI in Latin, at The Latin Library
• Satire VI in English (translation by G. G. Ramsay) at the Internet Ancient History Sourcebook

The Watcher Letters